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<a name='Perl 6 Summary for 2006-01-10 though 2006-01-24'></a><h1>Perl 6 Summary for 2006-01-10 though 2006-01-24</h1>
<p>All~</p>
<p>Welcome to another fortnight's summary.  This summary marks a return to a Tuesday schedule for summaries.  Hopefully this will help me get summaries to you on time.  Oddly appropriate that I just started reading Don Quixote...</p>
<a name='Perl 6 Compiler'></a><h2>Perl 6 Compiler</h2>
<p>Either this list followed its typical pattern of doing most of its work off list, or google's indexing of it broke.  I am guess the former and continuing on blindly.</p>
<a name='Perl 6 Internals'></a><h2>Perl 6 Internals</h2>
<a name='Unescapable Single Quotes in Strings'></a><h3>Unescapable Single Quotes in Strings</h3>
<p>Matt Diephouse discovered that he could not escape single quotes within strings.  This saddened him so much he open an RT ticket.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/6fd1fe6d523590fb/accc880c283b074b' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#accc880c283b074b</p>
<a name=' genfile() Interpolation Syntax'></a><h3><code> genfile() </code> Interpolation Syntax</h3>
<p>Joshua Hoblitt changed the interpolation syntax for <code> Parrot::Configure::Step::genfile() </code> from <code> ${foo} </code> to <code> @foo@ </code>.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/a4d8b5fefa8ce7b4/bef2917a6e6c21ba' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#bef2917a6e6c21ba</p>
<a name='getopt_obt.t Failures'></a><h3>getopt_obt.t Failures</h3>
<p>Joshua Hoblitt posted some failures in <code> t/library/getopt_obj.t </code> on amd64/linux.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/b6dce10960174c06/5a20f5f4326b861f' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#5a20f5f4326b861f</p>
<a name='Improved Smoke Layout'></a><h3>Improved Smoke Layout</h3>
<p>Joshua Hoblitt opened a TODO for the smoke server's layout.  Currently it is a bit busy and confusing.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/c8ebf43f670e98b1/da17fae7ca0f4d9b' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#da17fae7ca0f4d9b</p>
<a name='Deprecated PMCs'></a><h3>Deprecated PMCs</h3>
<p>Leo deprecated FloatvalArray and StringArray PMC in favor of the (Fixed|Resizable)*Array PMCs, which are 20% more awesome.*</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/ab631602d56488a2/2f7dcf037ea477df' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#2f7dcf037ea477df</p>
<p>*awesomeness directly related to their original author</p>
<a name='pdb.exe build broken'></a><h3>pdb.exe build broken</h3>
<p>Jerry Gay noted that pdb.exe was failing to link on Windows.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/5758029bec6d82d9/9053c0cfa0a93e0f' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#9053c0cfa0a93e0f</p>
<a name='Interpolation Synatx Updates'></a><h3>Interpolation Synatx Updates</h3>
<p>Greg Bacon noticed a few <code> ${foo} </code> interpolations left over from the aforementioned update.  Nick Glencross improved upon Greg's core idea.  Joshua Hoblitt verified the fixes.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/7c2df5feeec172e1/344eca980e36b6ea' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#344eca980e36b6ea</p>
<a name='Attack of the Clones'></a><h3>Attack of the Clones</h3>
<p>Klaas-Jan Stol was having trouble making his LuaNil PMC clone method.  Leo explained that it was his fault, and he solved it.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/f9fafbd31726b0bb/2fa792f2afba0ddb' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#2fa792f2afba0ddb</p>
<a name='LuaNil Morphing'></a><h3>LuaNil Morphing</h3>
<p>Klaas-Jan Stol proffered a patch which changed LuaNil from a singleton and made it morph to other Lua types when asked.  Warnock applies.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/e1b5f37a688396e9/f5a2129824c0b91f' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#f5a2129824c0b91f</p>
<a name='LuaTable Loving'></a><h3>LuaTable Loving</h3>
<p>Klaas-Jan Stol also provided a patch making LuaTable more correct.  Warnock applies.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/cbc26ace9aed177c/cf6bb7a0a7622665' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#cf6bb7a0a7622665</p>
<a name='Lua Fixes'></a><h3>Lua Fixes</h3>
<p>Jonathan Worthington updated Lua PMCs to no longer use the deprecated Parrot_PMC_typenum.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/cbc26ace9aed177c/cf6bb7a0a7622665' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#cf6bb7a0a7622665</p>
<a name='Tcl on Darwin'></a><h3>Tcl on Darwin</h3>
<p>Joshua Isom noticed that Tcl was no longer building on Darwin.  Jonathan Worthington updated Tcl PMCs to no longer use the deprecated Parrot_PMC_typenum.  Joshua noted that this fixed one problem but left another one.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/bd5841582503f9fe/760f31cb3defedc2' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#760f31cb3defedc2</p>
<a name='No More .def Files'></a><h3>No More .def Files</h3>
<p>Jonathan Worthington completed the work that allows Parrot to build on Win32 without a .def file.  Thanks, Jonathan.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/12b143bfb61985ee/04dcfd91378acfcd' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#04dcfd91378acfcd</p>
<a name='Moving argv to ResizableStringArray'></a><h3>Moving argv to ResizableStringArray</h3>
<p>Joshua Isom (after Leo's earlier help) offered a patch moving argv from an SArray to a ResizableStringArray.  Warnock applies.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/875b13effc35604c/a2af4fcb1e9d9920' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#a2af4fcb1e9d9920 -- inital version</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/33b23b44b6cac3e5/26a7c2f30b22bffc' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#26a7c2f30b22bffc -- final version</p>
<a name='Pod File Extensions'></a><h3>Pod File Extensions</h3>
<p>Joshua Isom noted that many documents were pod documents, but did not have .pod extensions.  Joshua Hoblitt fixed it.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/3e68e0ebc2b6b15a/45291788ebbce420' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#45291788ebbce420</p>
<a name='Switch Tcl to Getopt/Obj.pir'></a><h3>Switch Tcl to Getopt/Obj.pir</h3>
<p>Bernhard Schmalhofer suggested that Tcl could be moved to Getopt/Obj.pir from Getopt/Long.pir, which clears the path for remove of Getopt/Long.pir.  Will Coleda gave the go ahead for switching it.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/1e55d61d558b25b8/0a0ccea4e6a36746' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#0a0ccea4e6a36746</p>
<a name='clear_eh restrictions'></a><h3>clear_eh restrictions</h3>
<p>Bob Rogers posted an update to his patch which restricts <code> clear_eh </code> to the current context only.  Warnock applies.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/fdc7033d01108917/e8235caab47051bb' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#e8235caab47051bb</p>
<a name='Clean Up After Yourself'></a><h3>Clean Up After Yourself</h3>
<p>Bob Rogers provided a patch which makes <code> examples/pir/io.pir </code> clean up its temp file.  Warnock applies.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/91e208f46454c8cd/09139070babb0ffa' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#09139070babb0ffa</p>
<a name='Build Failure on FreeBSD 5.4'></a><h3>Build Failure on FreeBSD 5.4</h3>
<p>Joshua Isom noted that the build was failing on FreeBSD 5.4.   Apparently the cgp core was a little hard on their gcc.  Leo disabled the portion it was breaking on.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/461737888bd1dc1a/7a165108815387c9' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#7a165108815387c9</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/461737888bd1dc1a/7a165108815387c9' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#7a165108815387c9</p>
<a name=' get_param Questions'></a><h3><code> get_param </code> Questions</h3>
<p>Klaas-Jan Stol had a few questions about get_param usage in PIR.  Bob Rogers and Leo provided answers.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/49ae9f270be850ad/832de1166c0f7d2f' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#832de1166c0f7d2f</p>
<a name='find_global Opcode Change'></a><h3><code>find_global</code> Opcode Change</h3>
<p>Leo updated <code>find_global</code> and <code>get_global</code> to return a Null PMC on failure when exceptions are disabled.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/1575712bbee0c152/04d4a7ac1b7529bf' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#04d4a7ac1b7529bf</p>
<a name='Build Step Parameter Passing'></a><h3>Build Step Parameter Passing</h3>
<p>Joshua Hoblitt added support for passing parameters to build steps in the build system.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/483e26dcd07dc09d/8ff65d04840af18b' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#8ff65d04840af18b</p>
<a name='Automatic Closure Creation'></a><h3>Automatic Closure Creation</h3>
<p>Audrey found it cumbersome to need to explicitly create new closures for package-scoped subroutines. Leo made it automatic.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/92e001a480090b7a/d1214d2c3380d144' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#d1214d2c3380d144</p>
<a name='YAML::Emitter::Syck wanted'></a><h3>YAML::Emitter::Syck wanted</h3>
<p>Will Coleda opened a todo for a <code>YAML::Emitter::Syck</code> that functions similarly to <code>Data::Dumper</code>.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/60b00f89765b2e15/ec21572859b858b5' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#ec21572859b858b5</p>
<a name='PMC Introspection'></a><h3>PMC Introspection</h3>
<p>Will Coleda wants an API for introspecting PMCs from PASM.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/9606000865dcfd5a/190adee09aeafba1' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#190adee09aeafba1</p>
<a name='FrOSCon Call For Papers'></a><h3>FrOSCon Call For Papers</h3>
<p>Marcus Thiesen announced that the first Free and Open Source Conference is looking for papers in both English and German.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/03bca46294730b5c/7a5871ca512e653c' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#7a5871ca512e653c</p>
<a name='YAML::Parser::Syck'></a><h3>YAML::Parser::Syck</h3>
<p>Bernhard Schmalhofer posted a brief look at what has already been done with adding support of libsyck and left the door open to anyone who wished to pick up the torch.  Warnock applies.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/435254bd782c519b/5a94cf7a32769546' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#5a94cf7a32769546</p>
<a name='Parrot Link Issues'></a><h3>Parrot Link Issues</h3>
<p>Klaas-Jan Stol had problems linking parrot.  Larry managed to track the problem down to an old libparrot in <code>/usr/local/lib</code> being picked up prematurely.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/c58d9501f8649ef0/3f00b40b3aa9669d' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#3f00b40b3aa9669d</p>
<a name='Parrot_Context Unused Field'></a><h3>Parrot_Context Unused Field</h3>
<p>Bob Rogers posted a patch which improved the name of an unused field in Parrot_Context.  Leo applied the patch.  Matt Fowles wondered why leave the unused pointer in at all.  Leo explained that it was need for mark_register_stack to work out correctly, although another pointer could be moved over it to save those 4 bytes (or even 8 on 64 bit platforms!).</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/fd481bd45e606646/34bdcaae8560ef55' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#34bdcaae8560ef55</p>
<a name='gunie.g Question'></a><h3>gunie.g Question</h3>
<p>Chris Dolan was curious why print was an expression and not a statement in the punie grammar.  Andrew Rodland explained that print was an expression because it return a value (success or failure).</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/94808ac38d33d3c3/45351c7c21bbe13a' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#45351c7c21bbe13a</p>
<a name='genrpt.pl is Obsolete'></a><h3>genrpt.pl is Obsolete</h3>
<p>Bernhard Schmalhofer noticed that <code>tools/dev/genrpt.pl</code> does the same thing as parrotbug and could thus be removed.  Joshua Hoblitt agreed.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/c24d7dedf29373ec/fd80e6762783d1b1' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#fd80e6762783d1b1</p>
<a name='Parrot::Config Contains Invalid Info'></a><h3>Parrot::Config Contains Invalid Info</h3>
<pre>  Jerry Gay noticed that his Parrot::Config was being created with invalid data.  Joshua Hoblitt offered to clean up one problem and asked for takers on another.</pre>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/adfc288bf534b420/5a177fff74b67cd6' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#5a177fff74b67cd6</p>
<a name='Rename src/classes to src/pmc'></a><h3>Rename <code>src/classes</code> to <code>src/pmc</code></h3>
<p>Bernhard Schmalhofer proposed and performed, after favorable reception of his proposal, a migration from directories name <code>src/classes</code> to <code>src/pmc</code>.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/1ad793be90c81d3b/81b53914ad2d1b76' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#81b53914ad2d1b76</p>
<a name='Out of Date Comments'></a><h3>Out of Date Comments</h3>
<p>Brad Bowman noticed some comments refering to <code>cache.*</code> in <code>pobj.h</code>.  He provided a patch to remove them.  Warnock applies.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/4d6184c36378ad68/93391a076040405b' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#93391a076040405b</p>
<a name=' compute_dominance_frontiers Bug'></a><h3><code> compute_dominance_frontiers </code> Bug</h3>
<p>Bob Rogers found a problem in <code> compute_dominance_frontiers </code>.  Curtis Rawls suggested simply disabling the function as it was merely a precursor to SSA which was never finished.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/f4bb948f516436e2/e4d5b75eb7ec2392' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#e4d5b75eb7ec2392</p>
<a name='Closure::mark Segfault'></a><h3>Closure::mark Segfault</h3>
<p>Bob Rogers found a fixed a segfault in Closure::mark.  Leo applied the patch.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/bde9b842c8241ee5/70f376053598786c' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#70f376053598786c</p>
<a name='Parrot CPAN Bundle?'></a><h3>Parrot CPAN Bundle?</h3>
<p>Jerry Gay suggested making a CPAN Bundle (or possibly several) for Parrot.  Chip liked the idea of having one bundle, and thought that having several sub-bundles would be more effort than it might be worth.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/1aaba0ad30aacd91/18e9ee88e9e15f0c' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#18e9ee88e9e15f0c</p>
<a name='Calling Conventions Details'></a><h3>Calling Conventions Details</h3>
<p>Leo had a few questions about pdd03 (calling conventions).  Chip provided clarifications.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/d734a002915bb692/9efc3ef4b808f3d6' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#9efc3ef4b808f3d6</p>
<a name='PDD11 Bit Rot'></a><h3>PDD11 Bit Rot</h3>
<p>Brad Bowman noticed a bit of rot in pdd11 and polished it up.  Jerry Gay applied the patch.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/451a7f576977356f/8b9a6eba638091a0' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#8b9a6eba638091a0</p>
<a name='Named Argument Passing'></a><h3>Named Argument Passing</h3>
<p>Leo proposed a way of passing named arguments in PIR.  Response was favorable, and he implemented it.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/d73bba23444c6f28/73edcb5c4218aceb' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#73edcb5c4218aceb -- proposal</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/d0245edf7ca01495/b8057f7d4b58b27d' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#b8057f7d4b58b27d -- implementation</p>
<a name='LuaTables of Floats'></a><h3>LuaTables of Floats</h3>
<p>Klaas-Jan Stol wondered how to use N values as keys.  Leo suggested using Float PMCs and Matt Fowles warned of the danger of using floating point values where equality checks might be needed.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/d5f1e1347d3e5dbb/308171fcc87e1fe8' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#308171fcc87e1fe8</p>
<a name='Argument Passing Bug'></a><h3>Argument Passing Bug</h3>
<p>Bob Rogers found an issue with the :optional to :slurpy state transition in process_args, so he fixed it.  Leo applied the patch.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/3894efed50cda243/bc71c9f02d424f6e' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#bc71c9f02d424f6e</p>
<a name='Object Initialization Changes'></a><h3>Object Initialization Changes</h3>
<p>Bob Rogers noticed some changes the semantics of object initialization.  He sent a patch with more tests, but Warnock applies.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/74ec6e6999edc87b/fc458d1ecc0df83c' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#fc458d1ecc0df83c</p>
<a name='Assertion Failure in Life'></a><h3>Assertion Failure in Life</h3>
<p>Tim Bunce found an assertion failure in <code>ncurses_life.pir</code>.  Leo fixed the problem.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/1adafbc88b2c458b/22b42b8bb1c0c147' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#22b42b8bb1c0c147</p>
<a name='ncurses files'></a><h3>ncurses files</h3>
<p>Tim Bunce found several different ncurses files in <code>runtime/parrot/library/</code> and asked which were generated from the others.  Leo explained that ncurses.pasm was generated from ncurses.declarations, but that ncurses.pir was hand made.  He suggested splitting them into to parts, one for libncurses and another for libform NCI functions.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/7f7e66eda914a5dd/457814abff3cfcfd' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#457814abff3cfcfd</p>
<a name='Cygwin Build Failures'></a><h3>Cygwin Build Failures</h3>
<p>Greg Bacon was having build troubles on Cygwin.  After much work, still no resolution.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/bc7deffc4ae04dc2/86aab13cf1d8e100' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#86aab13cf1d8e100</p>
<a name='HP-UX Alignment Issues'></a><h3>HP-UX Alignment Issues</h3>
<p>Nick Glencross found a failing assertion on HP-UX.  Leo suggested disabling function pointer alignment on this system since it dist not appear to be working.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/4da9be85f17d5894/4ffc7ef674708bb9' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#4ffc7ef674708bb9</p>
<a name='.const improvements'></a><h3>.const improvements</h3>
<p>François Perrad noticed that .const was not working with LuaPMCs.  Leo explained that a PMC had to implement new_from_string for .const to work.  Klass-Jan Stol added support for it to LuaNumber.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/9f2e92cec1f881a1/727d149fbd2b36b4' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#727d149fbd2b36b4</p>
<a name='method_util unused'></a><h3>method_util unused</h3>
<p>Leo noticed method_util.c and .h.  He also noticed that they were unused.  Shortly he is going to remove them.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/fa036bb8e2f15c61/0f8a3599b8612d5f' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#0f8a3599b8612d5f</p>
<a name='0.4.1 Build Erros on OSX'></a><h3>0.4.1 Build Erros on OSX</h3>
<p>WangKe was having trouble building 0.4.1 on his shiny new OS X 10.4.3 Intel.  I think he may have a completely untested combination of endianess and OS for us...  Sadly he was posting to google groups and not the list.  Perhaps some kind soul will help him.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/e1a48541a732c47e/225afb52b7fe07d7?utoken=xmIfgTcAAADWXQ4sS--whFjzzhFxvEM090HVHyhbtzsNTdHvkkF1mVAnRldc4uLB9kUTBd-Y1IsEXYZUHlK8X2k5AIGNoA1S' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a></p>
<a name='Namespace Notes'></a><h3>Namespace Notes</h3>
<p>Leo had some suggestions after reading pdd21 (namespaces).  Matt Diephouse and Chip had some thoughts about it too.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/14378b4572b8f5a3/47e7447f6639d248' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#47e7447f6639d248</p>
<a name='Managed Pointers .Net Style'></a><h3>Managed Pointers .Net Style</h3>
<p>Jonathan Worthington was a little unsure of how to implement safe managed pointers for .Net on Parrot.  (Perhaps I will call it P#)  Chip provided useful suggestions for how he might proceed.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/browse_frm/thread/645ed07d9527d353/aa2b5b9b03d01478' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#aa2b5b9b03d01478</p>
<a name='Ranges and Iteration'></a><h3>Ranges and Iteration</h3>
<p>Dave Whipp brought a thread over which discusses different aspects of ranges including comparison, inclusion, and iteration.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/08c115dd8429a994/4b00d8027f170730' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#4b00d8027f170730</p>
<a name='Pattern Matching For Loops'></a><h3>Pattern Matching For Loops</h3>
<p>Dave Whipp wondered if there was someway to make the for loop in Perl6 do some kind of pattern matching.  Brad Bowman wondered about anonymous multis which sound interesting to me.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/1329560973a3e440/fa0de9c2a4574db7' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#fa0de9c2a4574db7 -- original post</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/6806c49eb5912dac/8ec458c1fdc8a1e6' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#8ec458c1fdc8a1e6 -- more on anonymous multis</p>
<a name='Array Holes'></a><h3>Array Holes</h3>
<p>Luke Palmer wondered how array holes would be dealt with in Perl6.  Larry posted his thoughts and musings.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/038de098f8e2b3ce/9fe1501acc0bccec' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#9fe1501acc0bccec</p>
<a name='closures capturing sub arguments'></a><h3>closures capturing sub arguments</h3>
<p>Audrey had a question about the semantics of nested subs which capture the argument of the outer sub.  Larry felt that her approach was reasonable and sound.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/722ba3a9e327bae7/e2b90e19a5da10bf' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#e2b90e19a5da10bf</p>
<a name='Indeterminate Forms'></a><h3>Indeterminate Forms</h3>
<p>Audrey wondered how a great number of operations like (0/0 and its ilk) were defined.  Larry felt that boxed types should be consistent and unboxed types fast.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/762d08d1be08c7bb/ef972bf3e356d279' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#ef972bf3e356d279</p>
<a name='Split on Empty String'></a><h3>Split on Empty String</h3>
<p>Gaal Yahas noticed that pugs and Perl 5 disagreed on the result of splitting an empty string.  Larry sided with pugs in this case.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/667b49aa6674345f/970f99c0e25069f9' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#970f99c0e25069f9</p>
<a name='Short Circuiting Chained Comparisons'></a><h3>Short Circuiting Chained Comparisons</h3>
<p>Joe Gottman wondered if chained comparisons would short circuit.  Luke Palmer thought that they probably would.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/1b75b0f9c852838d/0893760ae04caa55' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#0893760ae04caa55</p>
<a name='Class Methods vs Instance Methods'></a><h3>Class Methods vs Instance Methods</h3>
<p>Rob Kinyon posted his concerns about the ambiguity that was being introduced between class methods and instance methods.  Matt Fowles also voiced concern.  While some thoughts were published, no official word has emeged.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/d6011d3fc7c70273/e363b274846a09ad' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#e363b274846a09ad</p>
<a name='Perl 6's Bless'></a><h3>Perl 6's Bless</h3>
<p>Stevan Little, who has a habit of hurting my brain, posted some concerns he has about <code>bless</code>.  Much discussion ensued.  When it veered of his intended topic, he tried again.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/8ba11b17c0c747b1/e1f82b44b47b6558' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#e1f82b44b47b6558</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/93d9249b3710f816/18dc986fc08a4e47' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#18dc986fc08a4e47</p>
<a name='Symbolic References with twigils'></a><h3>Symbolic References with twigils</h3>
<p>Joshua Choi wondered how to create a symbolic reference with a twigil.  Larry posted some thoughts.</p>
<p><a href='http://groups.google.com/group/perl.perl6.language/browse_frm/thread/f50f2d826a57983d/9b070a520ccf4634' target='_blank'>groups.google.com</a>#9b070a520ccf4634</p>
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